1 For PAT members benefits were calculated based on the PPS provided table below:
PERS UAL (Unfunded Actuarial Liability)
Social Security - FICA
Group Health Insurance
Other Employer Paid Benefits
Retiree Health Insurance
Early Retirement Benefits
During the process of obtaining the records from PPS, the Public Information Officer provided via email the following formula to calculate total compensation:
Total Compensation = Annual Salary X 1.2241 (fringe benefits) + $13.254.60 (PPS healthcare contribution)
Because the table to the left used a percentage (23.68%) of base salary to calculate healthcare benefits and the formula provided by the Public Information Officer used a fixed amount ($13,254.60), healthcare benefits were calculated as follows:
Healthcare Benefits = Base Pay X 23.68%
if Healthcare Benefits > 13,254.60 then 13,254.60
In other words, healthcare benefits were calculated for PAT members using the table percentage of 23.68% of base pay limited to a total of $13,254.60.
How many days were included in their contract for last yr? I’m struggling with the concept that the teachers are thinking they are undercompensated when compared to private sector salaries and total compensation.
When comparing teachers’ salaries to those of professionals in the private sector, please also compare education status. All teachers have Bachelor’s degrees at minimum. Many have Master’s Degrees or higher.
Can someone explain to me how these people are underpaid and over worked? Considering that most teachers are only required to be on school grounds for a minimum of 6 hours per day, and that their work “year” is approximately 7-8 months long (Christmas vacation, spring vacation, summer vacation, all civil holidays, in service days) I fail to see how these people are overworked and underpaid?
In an article in the Wall Street Journal, Jay P. Greene and Marcus A. Winters published an article, “Is $34.06 per hour Underpaid?”
From the article: “Who, on average, is better paid—public school teachers or architects? How about teachers or economists? You might be surprised to learn that public school teachers are better paid than these and many other professionals. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, public school teachers earned $34.06 per hour in 2005, 36% more than the hourly wage of the average white-collar worker and 11% more than the average professional specialty or technical worker. Of course, public school teacher earnings look less impressive when viewed on an annual basis than on an hourly basis. This is because teachers tend to work fewer hours per year, with breaks during the summer, winter and spring. But comparing earnings on an annual basis would be inappropriate when teachers work significantly fewer hours than do other workers. Teachers can use that time to be with family, to engage in activities that they enjoy, or to earn additional money from other employment. That time off is worth money and cannot simply be ignored when comparing earnings. The appropriate way to compare earnings in this circumstance is to focus on hourly rates.
Moreover, the earnings data reported here, which are taken directly from the National Compensation Survey conducted by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, do not include retirement and health benefits, which tend to be quite generous for public school teachers relative to other workers. Nor do they include the nonmonetary benefit of greater job security due to the tenure that most public school teachers enjoy”.
I’m tired of seeing the elderly needing to sell their homes because they can not afford to pay the ever increasing taxes on their property. I’m tired of the mortgage payments of average families sky rocket in order to provide better benefits to teachers. I’m tired of renters having to pay more in rent because of the ever rising property taxes.
Why are parochial and private school teachers paid substantially less (about half) than their public school counterparts but do a great deal better in educating their students?
Tax payers are tired of being held hostage to the whims and demands of the public sector employees. Tax payers are beginning to revolt.
I’d probably feel the same way as Ot if I wasn’t married to a PPS teacher. She gets to work by at least 7 a.m. every day and after dinner works ’til 8 or 9 p.m. Often she puts in another 12 hours on the weekend. So she averages around 65 hours per week. That’s about an extra 100 hours per month. She also works unpaid over at least half of the Thanksgiving, winter, and spring breaks. In summer she works at least a week after school gets out, and starts preparing her classroom (i.e. goes back to work) about three weeks before school starts in the fall.
She doesn’t work for a couple of months in the summer, but by then the woman needs a break! After all, she’s worked at least 900 extra hours in 9 months.
On top of that, we spend $1,000-$2,000 per year on classroom supplies. But the feds generously let us write off a maximum of $250!
Wow, lot of hate in you, ot. Did you have a bad experience in school? Or did your child?
BTW, I looked up salaries for architects, economists and accountants, since you mentioned those professions: guess what? Not too different. In fact, a bit better for architects.
Why do parochial school teachers “do a great deal better in educating their students?” Well, that’s VERY debatable. I can address that later, if you’d like. For now I’ll cover this next point:
Private and parochial schools do not deal with EVERY child from every segment of society, every possible home-life situation, including abuse/neglect, poverty, non-English-speakers, disabled, genius intellect, wealthy families who feel entitled to get the most and best of everything for their progeny, to asshole parents, and every other form of client possible. They don’t take all those different clients and mix them into one building, and try to hold them all to equal standards. Public schools do. What does THAT kind of school resemble to you? It should resemble democracy, it should resemble America, and it should resemble reality.
Private and parochial schools are not true facsimiles of reality; they’re the “Gated Communities” of education. Comparing public school to private-school gated communities are apples and oranges.
Teachers get a lot of “breaks?” Which teachers do you know? Some don’t take work home very often, sure. But I could show you many who grade papers for a couple of hours after dinner every night, and lay in bed awake at night thinking about their interactions with kids, and about their job performance the day before, and planning how to improve.
So your taxes are too high? Never mind that big corporations pay $10 of income tax to Oregon, you’re much better off attacking middle class people who make middle class livings. Yeh, it would be much better if teachers made barista salaries, or babysitter wages. Sure, great idea. Let’s bring down everyone’s salaries and benefits who make more money than you think they should … that would be great for the economy and for the American dream of having a robust middle class.
You’re doing a great job of parroting certain talking points, ot: Support the tax-dodging corporate plutocracy, and erode the middle class.
A country without a robust middle class equals “third world.”
Teachers are with students from 7:45 am to 3:30 pm High school teachers see an average of 160-180 students per day and teach a different class every 45-90 minutes, depending on their schedule. Most teachers spend the time between 6 – midnight grading papers, answering email, answering phone calls, planning and creating lessons, handouts, materials, tracking down resources for their classes and reading volumes of material to cull the most recent information to make sure what they teach is up-to-date and accurate. Teachers are paid based on the number of teaching days, not vacations. Teachers do not have a lot of free time. Summers are spent taking more classes to keep their knowledge up-to-date and some have to go to workshops/meetings. All teachers must take a certain amount credit hours to keep their licenses. Besides teaching, teachers are club and activity advisors (most of these positions are unpaid). Teachers make connections with community partners and collaborate on projects to bring real-world projects into the classroom. All that takes time outside of the school day. And all of that is unpaid time. Imagine supervising 160-180 students each day, and most of them have attitudes a mile long. In addition to all the student-related paperwork (grading, lesson planning), teachers have a lot of other paperwork — grant writing, sub-committee work, curricular and program writing, scope and sequence planning, orders, inventory, assessment development, program evaluation and modification, etc.
Yes, teachers are paid well. I think we should say YEAH!
Why aren’t people up in arms about how much CEO’s make? They have the same level of education-some much less and yet they can make MILLIONS and yet people say ‘they are worth it’ Why is that?
I’m thrilled that our teachers are paid well and that they have a great union fighting for them. They need it…since you can tell from all the hate here how low so many feel about them.
I wish they held the same high esteem that teachers in Finland do. Their students do better than any others in the world. Perhaps it IS because of their high status?
This whining is nothing more than class envy. If you don’t feel like you are making enough money get better educated and be a freakin teacher! See how easy you think it is…I think you’ll be surprised.
I do think the teachers who complain about ‘low wages’ should accept they are well paid and compensated. I know one who is always complaining about her money situation and yet she earns a base salary of 70 grand. Sounds like she needs a lesson in money management. (She is single)
I’d like to comment about the 7-8 months of work comment above…teachers get 10 weeks exactly off in the summer, and then a week for spring break, and 2 weeks during the holidays. So we work about 9 months each year, and when you count all the overtime and out of pocket expenses, it feels like you’ve worked 10-11 months. I’m not sure which district is working 7 months per year, but I’ve never heard of it. Oh, and 6 hours a day! Tell me where this district is! This is not true. I am required to be at work 7.5 hours per day….which typically means 8.5 hours per day for me, and for my first couple years teaching I put in 10-12 hour days nearly every day of the year! Please do your homework first before posting.
Teachers have consistently made less money than their peers that have Master’s degrees and work in other fields, and yes, most of the time, that is taking into consideration the benefits that go along with it. Also, please remember that the teachers that are making around 70k per year are at the top of the pay scale and that means they have taken 45 additional post Master’s credits, and have taught with PPS for over 15 years. Most people that have worked with a company for 20 years are making over 70K per year, and they probably didn’t have to take courses every year and pass tests to remain “highly qualified”. Most of the younger teachers in Portland are making somewhere in the 40’s….this is low for a Master’s degree.
Also, teachers in PPS have continually received less resources, less staff, and less support over the last few years and have been given more job duties. They are being asked to do more with less, and most of them do it without much complaint because they are thankful to have a job.
Oh, and to the person who said teachers get too many breaks….wow. I don’t ever take a break, and most teachers don’t. The day that I take a lunch break without taking phone calls, problem solving with a student, planning to get the next lesson done, returning emails from parents and administrators…well, that’s never happened before, so I’m not sure what I would do.
So about those taxes being too high…do you know that most of your taxes are going towards our military budget? Let’s trim the fat there first, and then you can tell me we need to remove money from our classrooms that are already stretched pretty thin.
I’d like to make one thing very clear: I love my job and I’m not one to complain about all the work I have to do. Is it easy money? Certainly not, but I get many rewards beyond my salary and my ten week summer break, and the joy I get from working with my students makes it all worth it. Would I do the job if it were year around? I don’t think most teachers could do it without some sort of a break due to the kind of work we do everyday.