I am shocked how much State workers make over us in the Private Sector. I have a terrible time compensating my employees for what they are truly worth and then paying the damn State taxes!
I am a small business owner. I own my own counseling agency with no help from the State, but they have oversight for my State Licensing. Their in the field personnel who scrutinize what I do, make more than I the business owner!
I am an independent voter and state employee. You have my comp info listed as EMPLOYMENT DEPT EMPLOYMENT ADJUDICATOR KAH JAMES K $15,503.64 $6,269.52 $44,724.00 $66,497.16
The Insurance Benefits and Salary figures look pretty accurate but I don’t think the Retirement is even close. Pers pay the 6% pick up of a salary 45k. That works out to $2700.00 annualized by my math. So it appears to me that you are over reporting this figure by over 130% of the actual number. If the Sate was socking away for my retirement $6269.00 that would be a good deal. Could you please explain the basis of the reirement figure quoted.
This is beyond acceptable to the point that it is embarrassing!! 34 Physician Specialists, 18 Corrections Physician Specialist and 8 Supervising Physicians with average salaries exceeding $200k per year and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. There’s over 35,000 “other” jobs listed and it’s time for the state to justify their payroll. I’m FED UP with Government waste, particularly in Oregon, especially with my tax dollars. What a bloated quagmire!!
I don’t want to hear another word about schools not having enough funding, public safety is being jeopardized, we need to raise taxes,blah, blah, blah. The solution is glaringly obvious……
What is even more shocking is the number of state employees who work full time but still qualify for (and in many cases receive) food stamps and other assistance. And still haven’t figured out how their calculating retirement benefits on here. wtf?
I am a state worker and when I looked up my own salary it stated Insurance $11,586.48 retirement $8,247.48, and salary $61,812.00 for a total $81,645.96. I wish.
As I look at my pay stub it states 309.24 per month which is 6% retirement or annually 3,600 not 8,247.48 so don’t believe everything you read. Also, the salary does not include 3,000 of furloughs I have taken.
Please people when you review this data base look at the job descriptions. They are not the typical worker that lives next to you, drives an older car and shops at Walmart.
I spent many years working for the private sector. You don’t have to be to work until 9? I’m at my office every working day before 7. Many night meetings, overnite travel, a lot of days where the hours worked go way past 8. I work at my desk for my lunch break.
I suggest you stop whining, get an education, pay for it out of your own pocket WHILE you work fulltime like I did, and find a job you’re happy with.
Have worked two decades each in the private sector and the public sector here’s my experience. I realize your reality might be different as Oregon lags the rest of the nation in pay and gives most of its wealth away to chronic malingerers. Most commenters tend to exptrapolate their experience in Oregon, the West Coast’s Appalacia, as what’s happening in the rest of the nation.
Government salaries are lower than corporate America, please see jobs in states outside of Oregon with the exception of Mississippi, but the benefits are about equal to other large in-state private sector employers.
Unlike my former jobs in the private sector, there are no performance bonuses, trips/cruises, pizza parties paid by the employer, doughnuts purchased by the employer, Christmas parties paid for by the employer, business travel and high level per diem paid for by the employer.
There are lots of state jobs open during boom economic times usually over 500 daily. Unfortunately very few in the private sector apply for them as there must be something about their private sector pay or benefits which holds them back.
But oh do those state jobs look good during economic downturns. Everyone seems to want to work for government and suddenly becomes envious of the employment package government provides.
There are 249 state government jobs open today. You need to apply however. No one comes out to give you a job. Duh!
If the salaries bother you then you should look at the amount of work time that this potentially buys. A longer term state employee (the higher paid are usually long time employees) qualifies for 9 holidays off work with pay, 12 sick days, 1 governor’s day, 5 days performance leave, 3 days personal business, 3+ days of pre-retirement time with pay, and up to 26 vacation days for a total of 59 days potential days off of work. So basically some of these salaries could be for a 10 month work year with pay for 12 months.
All of you people complaining about not being able to work a 9-5, having to work on the weekends, not make enough money.. simple solution.
I’m tired of people who complain about things like this all because they want to have their jobs handed to them on a silver platter. Get off your lazy rear end and learn how to get a job that gives you the “lavish” commodities of working a regular Monday through Friday job instead of just blabbering behind a computer screen about your wasted tax dollars. People actually try to get into these jobs. It’s not a job at Walmart or McDonald’s your applying for.
These figures are highly inaccurate. If my retirement was that big i would retire now. The truth is i may never afford to retire (the way things look currently). All you that think we are overpaid and treated so well should come to work like we do. Work for decades for a retirement that may never happen. Take furlough days to avoid layoffs. Now there is layoffs anyway. Most of you that bad mouth government employees have never been one. PERS was not in the red when it got taken away. If you believe everything you read in the newspapers or these type of websites it is no wonder you are so mislead. We pblic servants get to listen to all the disrespect and still have to suck it up and work for a lower wage than we used to. My wages have been frozen most of the time i worked here. Raises were from being promoted not what press tells you narrow minded folks. You should not want Social Security either. Only you deserve to retire well but noone else should.
To respond to some of you state workers that say that private sector workers should apply and work for the state since state workers have it so BAD at their state jobs. I myself have applied multiple times for state jobs that I am qualified for (and some that I am over-qualified for) but have not received any response. I am inclined to believe that the state is a brotherhood state. If you know someone…you are in. Since you will immediately want proof…my son-in-law’s brother was able to get a job I also applied for in the city I reside in because HE KNEW SOMEONE WHO WORKS FOR THE CITY.
Also, even though most of you will claim your figures are incorrect, you, unlike the workers in the private sector haven’t been laid off and more than likely won’t be. I have been laid off twice now…and could be again. I have also taken a reduction in my income, and my employer 401k contribution has been terminated. Yes, you state workers are real bad off.
I have worked for OYA for 6 years and had 2 step increases and no cost of living increases. I also work 11:30 am to 9:30 pm including one weekend day. So not sure about others that do not work in a 24 hour / 7 day a week facility. I took a 25% pay cut to move from a private practice to work with youth at risk so do not lump all of us together. I agree an agency with 6 works for each manager coul trim from the top and keep the services to the youth going. Trim the cream not those directly working with the youth in the community and facilities.
These salaries look like a boon for state employees, yet some state employees have written to say this doesn’t accurately represent their pay. Why the discrepancy?
What I do know is that salaried employees working for paper mills customarily work 80 hours a week. Divided by hours worked, their salary is halved, their health care contributions deducted from paycheck are hundreds of dollars a month, pensions were eliminated and the company no longer contributes to employee 401K’s. With Greece unable to pay it’s debt, the stock market will drop, the bond market is going south, too. So 401K’s which cannot be cashed out will probably be decimated as well which will eliminate any retirement benefits.
From here, state employee compensation looks like a sweet deal. State employees don’t know how good they have it!
Clint Christopher at PERS has had numerous complaints of criminal harrassment, usage of the PERS computers for his personal stock market trading, was removed from his manager position, was demoted to non-management, but still receives $97,000/year (as an OPA2) with only a 2-year college attendance.
A longer term state employee also has to take more mandatory furlough days. The average state employee lost $2000 – $6000 per year for the last two years. Some management salaries were cut even more.
State workers are the backbone of the economy and they have lost or forfeited so much. The state is weeding out higher paid, tenured employees and replacing them with those with little or no experience. The state need to mentor new employees before forcing out the experienced workers.
To Bob (June 5th post):
No, you don’t have to know someone to get a state job. I was in private sector banking for over 20 years. I applied for dozens of jobs with the state in 2008 and took a simple clerical position making less than half of what I was making in banking. But, I wanted stability, retirement and benefits, which I felt made up for the lower income. After 11 months, I was laid off from that job. I then put in 72 state applications over 4 months. Yes, SEVENTY-TWO. I had 21 interviews and received one offer, which I happily took. I did not know anyone on the inside either time. I’ve been in my new position less than 2 years and face the possibility of layoff again (they have been announced, I just don’t know if it is going to be me yet). So, cry me a river about your “multiple” applications to the state. If you want a state job, make it happen. Get off your hind end and work for it. Just do not expect it to be all rainbows and unicorns once you get the job. Those of us left after the layoffs are going to be doing twice the work to make up for the laid off workers and doing it with fewer hours because of furlough days.
And to Jay (June 24th post):
Yes, there are some state employees that have abused their positions. I beg you to find abuses as outrageous as those in the private sector though (Kenneth Lay of Enron, Bernie Madoff, Bernard Ebbers of WorldCom, Angelo Mozilo of Countrywide, Big 3 automotive CEOs using corporate luxury jets to beg for taxpayer bailouts, etc.). Corruption and abuse happens in both public and private sector jobs. Somehow though, if a public sector abuse is reported, there will be people who assume every government employee is guilty and we’re all partying it up at the taxpayer’s expense!